The Importance of Finding the Openings

I think we have to acknowledge what it's like actually doing the work in the moment of doing the work. I remember saying like everybody on that flight mattered like nobody on that flight should have been deported but at the same time when you have the whole weight of the conservative people trying to squash your ideas. It is about finding the opening and figuring out how to prize it wider right so that even if that's the story that gets somebody's attention what else do you then talk to them about? That's part of it is once you've got people's attention what do you do with itWhat are the ends to which yeah you put your resources one of the things I've always thought is important