Self experimentation is one way to stay within some ethical boundaries of not experimenting on others, absolutely. John lily kept that throughout his entire life, like he would never do something on some one else that he would not do on himself first. And again, i think that's one of the reasons that he, like we toned earlier, regretted those dolphin autopsies and dolphin experiments early on. Later on, he viewed them as equivalent to humans. He had all kinds of interesting ideas about extra terrestrial communication and coincidence. But a, his, his thought was a little different than other people. Was when i meani's kind of going down that standard route of he we exist. There

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