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037 - Joe Natoli on OOUX (a sneak peak into our new course!)
The Object-Oriented UX Podcast
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Sophie Empreter, user experience designer and chief evangelist for Object-oriented UX. Joan Itoli is a successful UX consultant with over 30 years of experience. He has taught over 280,000 students on Udemy and within his UX365 Academy. So, cutting out the crap, getting to the heart of it.
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