My guest today, Scott Payne, spent more than two decades working with some of the most notorious biker gangs, illegal drug operations, and neo-Nazis. And, it would be hard to even imagine some of the things he’s seen and experienced in his decades-long career as an FBI Special Agent.
Today, Scott and I talk about what it takes to be a successful undercover agent, the lines that get blurred when working with some of the most dangerous criminals in the world, how to keep your cool under pressure (including the time a notorious biker gang stripped him in a basement to search him for the wire he was wearing at the time), and how a man transitions back into his ordinary life after one of the most dangerous jobs he could do.
SHOW HIGHLIGHTS
- 00:00 - Introduction
- 00:52 - Undercover Beginnings
- 02:25 - First Drug Buy
- 04:37 - Dark Humor Coping
- 06:32 - No Honor Among Thieves
- 15:06 - Infiltrating Neo-Nazis
- 26:07 - Blurring the Lines
- 35:31 - Illegal Activity Question
- 41:08 - Drug Protection Deal
- 47:59 - Basement Strip Search
- 01:00:55 - Wife’s Prayer
- 01:08:34 - Missing the Field
- 01:12:51 - Book Announcement
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