The Antidote to Social Media Race Discourse

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I have seen people who you know say oh well like that it's elitist to say that people should be like engaging with some of these texts and my response to that is like I think of the black panthers as being very very working class. They're reading like Nietzsche and Plato so I'm like I don't believe yeah I don't Believe it's Elitist to read. But when you think about that headline in the sun yesterday that actually kind of mocked builders for saying that they were reading, he says. "Woke builders" are woke because they're slightly educated and very touched with their emotions according to him.

Welcome to the Wintering Sessions with Katherine May.

Producer Note: You'll notice a slight change in Katherine's audio in the second half of the podcast. This is just due to a necessary 'source switch', where we had to change where her recording was coming from. Your ears will adjust very quickly but apologies for the ever so slight dip. Thank you!

This week Katherine talks to Emma Dabiri, author of Don’t Touch My Hair and What White People Can Do Next.

What begins as a conversation about Emma’s new-found commitment to appreciating all the seasons - not just summer - becomes something else entirely. Emma is one of our most agile thinkers and fearless speakers, and soon she is talking about everything from race and class to how we should think about the world right now. A thread of belonging runs through it all - how we seek and find it, how complicated our identities have become, and why it matters.

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