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Gillian Laub's Family Almost Split Apart During the Trump Years

The Long Game

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Change Will Not Happen Unless You Persuade People

John Ward: If we want to make progress, the first and most important art of that is to have a dialogue and listen. John ward: Change will not happen unless you persuade people. He says it's easier to live in your own echo chamber but he doesn't want to. john ward: Thank you for yu no talking and and engaging in the work. And i'm excited to read your book.

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