💬 “This is what I found that’s going to blow the lid off the stem cell industry. I found a way to legally get over a hundred million of your own stem cells within a day.” - Dr. Torbjörn Ogéus.

From his personal journey regenerating his own cartilage after career-ending osteoarthritis to publishing global studies on stem cells and exosomes, Torbjörn shares what may be one of the most important advances in regenerative medicine.

In this episode, Tim and Dr. Torbjörn Ogéus unpack:

➡︎ From pro athlete to innovator: how a career-ending injury led Torbjörn to regenerate his own cartilage and pioneer new therapies.

➡︎ Platelets, stem cells, and exosomes: why platelets ignite, stem cells build, and exosomes accelerate the healing cascade.

➡︎ The “fridge accident”: how storing blood overnight revealed a legal way to activate hundreds of millions of stem cells.

➡︎ Cell size and systemic healing: why small pluripotent-like stem cells can pass the lung barrier and repair the body more broadly.

➡︎ Healing the terrain: why priming with inflammation, hydrogels, or platelets makes stem cell therapy more effective.

➡︎ Real-world outcomes: cartilage regrowth, pain relief, and systemic improvements patients didn’t expect.

➡︎ The future of access: why stem cells won’t just be for the elite, but available to everyone within five years.

➡︎ Tim Gray sits down with Dr. Torbjörn Ogéus to explore how regenerative medicine is shifting, from expensive, elite procedures abroad to simple, legal, autologous treatments that could change healthcare forever.

➡︎ Dr. Torbjörn Ogéus, DC, PgD, MSc, ScA, is the Owner and lead clinician at SLS (Stockholms Led- & Smärtspecialist) in Stockholm, pioneering the future of stem cell and exosome therapies. A senior pain specialist with over 15 years of experience in regenerative medicine and a former professional athlete, his own career was cut short by osteoarthritis at 30. Instead of accepting a knee replacement, he pioneered stem cell alternatives that regenerated his own cartilage and returned him to full training. With four master’s degrees and 11 peer-reviewed publications, Torbjörn has advanced the field through groundbreaking studies, including 2024 evidence of increased joint space after stem cell treatment and a 2025 discovery of how pluripotent-like stem cells can be legally activated from adult blood. Recognised internationally as a thought leader, he is shaping the next era of regenerative healthcare by translating cutting-edge science into practical therapies that redefine healing, performance, and longevity.

💡 Highlights (audio)

0:00 Intro

2:22 From Pro Athlete to Regenerative Medicine Pioneer

7:42 Platelets Ignite, Stem Cells Build, Exosomes Accelerate

12:04 Discovering Pluripotent-Like Stem Cells in Adult Blood

16:59 The “Fridge Accident” That Changed Everything

24:14 Why Smaller Stem Cells Pass the Lung Barrier

27:23 The Role of Stress and Inflammation in Activating Stem Cells ⭐

32:46 Real-World Results: Cartilage Regrowth, Hip Pain Relief, and Tennis Elbow Recovery

34:21 Local vs Systemic Healing: PRP, Hydrogels, and Stem Cell Infusions

42:01 Cytokines and Hydrogels for Osteoarthritis

44:11 Exosomes as Cellular Messengers With Surprising Systemic Effects ⭐

46:03 Could This Save Healthcare Systems Billions?

49:55 In Five Years, Stem Cells for Everyone, Not Just the Elite

50:18 Rapid-Fire: Biggest Myth, Best Therapy, and Jaw-Dropping Results

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Resources Mentioned in the Episode
SLS (Stockholms Led- & Smärtspecialist) - https://www.sls.se/

Research on Stem Cells & Exosomes - https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Torbjoern-Ogeus

Health Optimisation Summit - https://uk.healthoptimisation.com/

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