The Tension Point Between Product and Service Business

We built a service that could plug into backup to migrate and realize, you know, we can charge for that. And so those two things were separated by quite a fair amount of time. That led to an acquisition of Pantheon, which we realized like, hey, there's an actual opportunity here. I reached out to them in part because they had also done that same thing. They're running an agency, built a platform,. It got acquired, and then suddenly you're a dev person, right?