How to Form Conscience and Decision Making

Lisa Ling: What are some practices for people to try? Where can people start to maybe shed a more rules-based framework and move more toward this nuanced discernment way of thinking about decision making? She says the resources for formation of conscience are thousands, but let me just offer a couple. Study in some ways of, you said you were obsessed with reading the Bible and you found it problematic in some ways; that's what study will do. And then think about saints. Who are the people who really lead you to say, oh, yeah, that's the kind of person I really find admirable?