The Future Celebrity in America Is Not Like a Celebrity to Everyone Outside of People in the Movie Business

I want to make clear I'm not a libertarian, libertarians. Well, I'm sympathetic with their ideas. They always lose. And there's structural reasons why they lose live and let live is not an inspiring enough philosophy. What I would like to see is the state working in conjunction with, with the free market and private enterprises to give the best solution. There's certainly our externalities that the markets just don't take into account or market failures that they just don't have ways to solve for. So a symbiosis is where I stand there.