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I suppose when X-BAL was founded, you mentioned like crime where and you mentioned some of the other types of attacks. But I suppose things like BEC ransomware, we're only just getting started in some of those around that time. Have you seen the threats change or I suppose you've worked in some of the incredible sophisticated organizations, BAE and Mondi? Yeah, it's a really good question. And yeah, I know from first on experience, just how hard it is to onboard and also some of the not necessarily bad service, but I suppose not necessarily coding edge service as well. Some of my MSPs were offering at the time and some still do do offered
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