The more you can, as a founder and a company have a mindset of like, I'm here to survive. VCs in my experience are trying to reduce the number of zeros by getting founders motivated who haven't seen this before. So it could also be pragmatism. You know what, if it's going to cost 15 million or 20 million for a stage fund coming out of an accelerator, I don't like this price but I'll pay it because it's triple what we were paying 10 years ago or seven years ago.

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