Unlike most people in the immediate post-1945 period, Kissinger did not believe that money made the world go round. He rejected Marxism Leninism and capitalist theories of economic superiority. And he comes to a very important conclusion about totalitarianism: we would reject it even if it had an economically superior system. So I think that's the idealism I'm referring to... The proof really is that he clashed with the real realists, people like Hans Morgenthau,. over a whole range of issues of foreign policy in the 1960s.

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