Nick Urban explores the world of brain training with Sens.ai creator Paola Telfer and neurofeedback expert Dr. Drew Pierson. They uncover how transcranial photobiomodulation, biofeedback, and real-time brainwave tracking can unlock peak performance, enhance focus, and accelerate personal growth.

Meet our guests

Paola Telfer is a tech entrepreneur inspired by her neurofeedback recovery journey after a car accident. She founded Sens.ai to make advanced brain training accessible to all. With a background in ASIC design and technical consulting, her prior startup, Vandrico, used wearables to improve field worker safety.

Dr. Drew Pierson is a dual-certified practitioner in Western and Eastern Medicine, a board-certified neurotherapist with 20+ years of experience, and a U.S. Navy submarine veteran. Former Head of Neuroscience at 40 Years of Zen, he now coaches elite performers in brain optimization and mental mastery.

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Key takeaways

How Sens.ai's brain training system works using real-time biofeedback and photobiomodulation
The role of brainwave frequencies in cognitive states and peak performance
Why personalized neurofeedback boosts focus, learning, and leadership potential
How wearable brain tech can make deep states of meditation and learning more accessible

Links

Watch it on YouTube: https://youtu.be/ZCs5vKnqRkw
Full episode show notes: mindbodypeak.com/125

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