There's a sort of unspoken reality, at least in the US establishment and French, that fully expelling the Russians back to pre-2014 borders is not going to happen. The problem again is whether we are going to fight to the last Ukrainian. There is no credible scenario where the Ukrainians may finish this war by the decisive victory with the Russians surrendering. And so the danger, as I have said, is a very big little war, sort of obsessed on the franks of Europe,.