The Trap of Being Busy

"I've been very, I hate using this term busy because I think it's way overused in society," he says. "So that's where I can fall into the trap of saying yes to the things that I don't really want to do is like, well, technically I've got a little bit of time." He adds: "It usually turns out way better in the end, but you kind of have to suffer a little bit to get there"