How to Induce People Not to Drive

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David Zipper: 98% of US commuters favor public transportation for others. He says it doesn't matter if someone's low income or more affluent, they say 'I am more likely not to drive' DC council member Charles Allen is a big fan of David but thinks fair free might be counterproductive. "We're facing this critical moment right now and we need to have the best arguments that we can"

Transit agencies nationwide are facing an existential crisis. Washington, DC’s city council has a paradoxical solution: make subways and buses free.

This episode was produced by Amanda Lewellyn, edited by Matt Collette, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Paul Robert Mounsey, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram. Additional help from Miles Bryan and Jolie Myers.

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