Psp, i just want to jump in ad start to cut you off, but ivea've a process question about this. Let's say that you're working a client in the office, and they're clearly classic c p, t, s t,. And they had this abusive relationship from, let's say, theoretically a father m. Do they join with you there? Or are they defensive about it? It's a process. If if i do it too early, they're defensive about it. As that is, it's funny, that instinct to like defend the parent. Oh, em, it's huge.

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