Do you think deep down you always wanted to have a bit of status? I'm massively, yeah. It's very evident that looking back at all of the things I've chosen and me trying to get social validation in one way or another. That was pretty unconfident as a kid. So I figured that if I felt like people maybe wouldn't want me as a person, if they needed me, that was close enough. And that was the beginning of things starting to take off.

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