Sally Kohn: I find plausible your account of those social and cultural changes. But it also seems to be a lot more complicated than that, right? My understanding is Bolsonaro also does quite well in the favelas. So does that story of rebelling against cultural change fit for those voters? Because they themselves seem to be part of a cultural change, right?Kohn: For me it does play a role in Brazil but maybe to a lesser extent than in the US. And I say that because yes, there are many people who just don't want to get used to the idea that now we have more black people, more women, more young people,. More people
Tabata Amaral is a Brazilian politician currently serving as a federal deputy for the center-left Brazilian Socialist Party (PSB), representing the state of São Paulo.
In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Tabata Amaral discuss her journey from a childhood of poverty to her admission to Harvard and her election as one of the youngest congresspeople in Brazil; how Lula’s ideologically diverse coalition was able to oust President Jair Bolsonaro; why Bolsonaro continues to enjoy broad support; and how Brazil can unlock its future by fighting corruption and improving basic education.
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