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Democrats' 'optimistic apostle' offers hope for the midterms

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

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Is There a Change in the Political Environment?

The post-Dobs period and the special elections that provided such a boost of optimism for Democrats. Some Democratic campaigns were being advised to spend 80, 90 percent of their TV budget on abortion rights. You had a change in the political environment, again, which put people back into the full-on red wave narrative. But you still are standing on the shore not seeing the red wave, right? That's where this gets really interesting.

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