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Is the Black Flag of Anarchy Resurfacing?
A human nature, I think, exists, but it's also complex. We are not inherently aggressive, evil, nasty, selfish or self-sacrificing. And we have the potential to be as you just framed it, better angels - and we can do that through institutions. The slogan defund the police was a terrible slogan in the sense that a lot of protesters weren't calling for the abolition of police," he says.