How to Be an ACO That Integrates Hospitals

There are some organizations in the prep call where we're talking about different ways to think about the ecosystem. Evelyn's health is a good example. They started working largely with clinically integrated networks or integrated delivery systems. Some of our fellow travelers have had some success as well. But I think if you look at the Medicare shared savings program data, it continues to bear out the fact that physician led ACOs do better than their hospital led peers.