Eric is faced with that sword right he's growing he grows up being shown that swordYeah yeah was used to cut the ring and then the failure so he is probably intimately familiar with that story go ahead Martha oh I was just gonna say back to what you were saying that where though you'll create your own. So often people will make it as if they were responsible for something like Eric does in this book. That would be such a like such a different experience of being in a group of people who all kind of know the intensity around him, she says.