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Having a Risk Prioritized You Know Process Is a Big Deal
I think it always has to be two conversations. It's got to be a conversation about you know what are we doing today for tomorrow's benefit on just sort of this go forward posture and then there's gonna be a realistic conversation around how to prioritize the backlog in this legacy of technology portfolio. Volcanary management is a great a great example it's something that's very measurable but sometimes people look at all of it with monolithic problem and they get completely overwhelmed, he says.