There's still this sense of the evolution of consciousness is kind of taking us to this better future inevitably or something. How do you factor that into? I would refer to that as stark stirring crazy. We haven't progressed in any sense that in terms of consciousness, come on. The last round of presidential campaign debates were made to a bunch of working class Chicago guys voters and ordinary voters. And yet these were Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln, Stephen Douglas debating the issues of slavery. They're still worth reading today.

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