Eric Liu: Meditative Story is about how we can hear other people's stories and have that then lead to change in us. What are some of the mechanisms that make that possible or what allow us to do that better? He says a big focus on present tense, so telling the story as if it's happening in that moment encourages a sense of immersion. Liu: I introduce the show, but also at the end, I write a meditation designed on the theme of the story. And then during the show, I pop up two or three times to really land some of the stuff that's happening.

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