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Life after the ”man with the plan”

In the Shift

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We're Not Just Meagar Churches

"We're talking a little bit more broadly now. Am and ye e y, that's true," they say. "If ii say we'll allow disagreement, we will ad we'll talk about you behind you back." The pair have both found themselves back in church leadership rolls for the last ten years or so. They've been on journeys to think about what m they want ministers passers to look like.

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