How to Use Commercial Debt for Business

I've had a few conversations, like I said, touching on the B2B services side. There's not a lot of assets other than that recurring revenue or contracted revenue. And there's a few lenders that are lending against that, cash flow lending. It's an interesting way to go about using the commercial debt. Typically for a cash flow lend, you're looking at probably around two times even maybe two and a half times what you could get with asset bank lending.