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130. The Art of a Tender Conversation: Kathryn Mannix, author of ‘With the End in Mind,’ [reads] ‘Gratitude’

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How to Stay Alive, Present, Without Facing Death

Mauryus Maughan: How do you stay present to the kind of the miracle of being a sentient being? And then I think it's a question that we have moments of clarity right through life. So, maybe there are habits we can develop that help us to be sufficiently grounded for enough time. He says meditation is as effective as medications for depression for fair to middling depression if it's really severe and needs more than gratitude.

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