Loyalty in Sports and Embracing Leisure

The Ringer's Bill Simmons reacts to the Lakers' loss to the Nuggets, and the Suns' narrow victory over the Warriors on the NBA's opening night (2:48). Bill then talks with Doc Rivers about his first offseason away from an NBA team in decades, the Celtics' busy offseason, first-year coach Adrian Griffin in Milwaukee, the Nuggets' trying to be repeat champions, what makes the Heat special, LeBron James's 21st NBA season, the James Harden saga, the young and hungry Thunder, Victor Wembanyama, and more (19:59).

Host: Bill Simmons

Guest: Doc Rivers

Producer: Kyle Crichton

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