The Will of God Is Thwarted by the Free Will of Humans

"If there are some that jesus wills to save, and they aren't saved because they use their free will to not be saved, then what we're saying is that the will of god ... is thwarted," he says. "He's presuming his, hiswold view on to us, and therefore making that conclusion." He adds: "You get you got to follow their line of reasoning andd understand it from both perspectives"