Outro

We’ve always promised to keep things real with you — the good, the messy, and everything in between.

And lately… life has been life-ing.

In this episode, we’re opening up about what’s been going on behind the scenes — especially with Vanessa’s dad’s health — and how we’ve been navigating this season both personally and as a couple.

We’ll talk about what’s next for our family, the emotional rollercoaster of managing grief while still finding moments of joy, and what it looks like to prioritize self-care, connection, and even intimacy when life feels really heavy.

💛 In this episode, you’ll hear:

• An honest update on Vanessa’s dad’s health and how our family is handling it

• The self-care practices helping me stay grounded (and sometimes just get through the day)

• What’s been helping us stay connected as a couple during stressful times

• The reality of sex and intimacy when you’re grieving or emotionally exhausted

• Why joy still matters, even when things are hard

If you’re in a tough season too, this one’s for you. You’re not alone. 💛

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