When did you decide you wanted to be a writer or a poet? And second, did you learn anything about people's dreams when you were doing the electrodes? Yeah. It was somehow stumbling from a science goal to maybe soft science to psychology in my first world literature class and I think there was just everything started to go over to that side of things. You know, part of what's interesting about being a poet is that nobody knows, you know, that it's almost like you're like a professional human.