i think one of these big stories that kind of really illustrates not only gates impact on the pandemic, but what he's been doing in health before that. And i don't think there's been as much attention paid to it then there probably should have. As you say, like, the critical voices are there, but they don't always get the same kind of attention that the voices who are in favor of the gates foundation would receive. The way i understand it is that gates view was at oxford, this university, it didn't have the wherewithal, the institutional knowledge to bring such an important vaccine quickly to the market place. So part of the reason is because what happened

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