Paleontologist, evolutionary biologist and senior editor of the scientific journal nature. He also wrote a book about the science of lorothe rings. In his most recent book, he writes about how, despite all odds, life on has managed to flourish. Kond of a divergence from what we usually do here. We're gong to talk about jus up science. It's not psychology,. it's not nera science, it's not political science.