The Programming Is Making You Do It

Memory, thought and the illusion of continuity.

Shainberg trained at the American Institute for Psychoanalysis and worked in New York. He was a leading force behind the integration of eastern and western philosophies in the understanding of consciousness and experience. Shainberg was the first to bring psychoanalysts and eastern spiritual leaders together. He retired from practice in 1981 in order to devote more time to painting.

Recorded in New York in 1983, the conversation between Krishnamurti and Shainberg inquires into why illusion and thought have such power. What can a person do for another who is caught up in their illusions? Why do human beings give importance to their own self-centred activity? The very idea of protecting oneself brings about isolation. The ‘me’ is not something separate from memory. Memory is the only thing that continues, but represents something that is dead, finished. Our psyche is being programmed by ideologies, which have been put together by thought.

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