Diplomatic and military relations between the west and ukraine are closer than they've ever been. And i think those bonds will endure whatever happens. There's always been the question f how much of this is domestically minded for vladimir boot, andhow are things looking there, as far as his position at home? I think that's really interesting, because when we were in moscow, we found that many people, some of them close to er the government, or even in the government, didn't believe that war was coming. They thought that war would be really bad for russia,. If putin chose war, it said something profound and disturbing about the way he wants