I try to make sure that my kids see me working as much as they can. I think that the more as a parent you can show them that I'm just a student of life too. There's a great line with Kurt Vonnegay. He said, whenever his kids used to complain to him about the state of the universe, he said, well, you want me to do what I just got here too. You know? And so that's kind of the way I feel with my kids. Like, look, I just got there too. Let's figure it out together.

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