"It's hard not to, you know, they're in the sports, they see it on t v. That's a big pull," he says of his children. "I've run into plenty of downs." He adds that many dads get caught up trying to live out their dreams for their kids. And so again, it goes back to that growth minesead of asking myself what did i want a from the game for my kids? What outcomes did i desire?"

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