Discipline and the Negative Connotation

i didn't have that negative contation in terms of discipline. It was always like a spiritual thing o growin up for me. But when you look at anybody that woke up, pain was part of itd not even eart of the whole deal. Jesus woke and it only happened through help from cloud of witnesses. He's the he's lord without the crui. Way say: "Do not lose heart when he rebukes you" The word 'discipline' is rooted in fear and control and rejection. And so i but that's not what's happening.