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John Spence - How to Be a Great and Empathetic Leader

Slo Mo: A Podcast with Mo Gawdat

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The Importance of Optimism

John Spence: "I don't know what the lesson is going to be and it's probably going to be years before I understand it" He says there were viral outbreaks before in history of humanity that ended by doing the right things. The idea is this is not easy in any possible way, but as we go through it, it will end if we continue to do the right thing," he says. John tells me if people want to reach out and find you where they should look - johnspence.com.

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