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25: Michael Ignatieff: Fighting Orban's Global Conservative Cabal

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Michael Wolraich: I would suggest Macron is. the one that gets closest to being defined as kind of having very high intellect and would probably in another, if his life had taken a term, would have been an intellectual. A great politician understands his businesses to find that narrow place down the middle where you can get just enough votes to get by till tomorrow morning. Joe Biden simply because he got deals that nobody thought could be done. We need less of them and more people who could just, you know, get the deal done. And so that would be my view of it. It's complicated for a guilty reason. They're coming at these liberal elites who've had a pretty good

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