Awesome. This has been really great. The question I always like to end on with people is, is there any like aspirational, cigarette, tech or science that you love to like take to lunch and just pick their brain about how they do what they do?

Honestly, I don't know so much about how they do what they do. But I really like this it down and pick Sam Altman's brain right now, especially everything that's happened. Especially

with the last couple of days. Yeah, it's just like, that's

insane. Like, you know, like, there's definitely some lessons to be learned there. That's quite a change of events like, but started off like, you sort of on the wrong side of the story, you end up on the right side of the story at the end, like, there is some magic to be learned and gleaned from that all that. Yeah,

for anyone listening, like, we are recording this. I think the day that he was reinstated as CEO of OpenAI, after like five days of being fired going to work for Microsoft and now coming back out of nowhere, which been a wild ride to watch. Like, I can't wait for like, the documentary about this, you know, it's

not lazy back, but the board that ousted him is gone. Yeah, it's

like, like, never seen anything like

that. No, the last five days have been the most amazing role-guster of sort of just corporate storytelling I've ever seen, like, you know, to not only get your position back, but to sort of like, vanquish those who try to destroy you. It's like, oh my God. Yeah, yeah, so that'd be like, my biggest curiosity.

Yeah, I totally get that. I would love to know what actually happened there. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for your time. I mean, I'm a fan of your work. You put out a lot of really good content and I really enjoyed hearing you talk about your process and how you built that over so many years. We'll include links for people to find your work online. But thank you again. And I really enjoyed our conversation.

Thank you. I had a great time and thank you for having me on. And yeah, I look forward to future conversations.

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