Scaling

I think one of the things that scares people about modelists and I'm projecting a little bit here is that if all of your code is all in one big code base, it's going to be really easy to be loosey goosey with your boundaries. And our team will just end up with a big interconnected mess. But you can start to use, we'll start to build distributed applications and start to get the benefits of being able to kind of push stuff out into microservices. That means using Docker, using Kubernetes for my deployments, having all my deployments like automated and sort of seamless.