The Evolution of the Camera in Nomadland

Chris: There's been a great deal of evolution from the three films you know and before maybe we could just stop from before Nomadland. Ryder became this much more restrained attempt at like compositions and pulling back I want to eventually talk about how that led to Nomadland but this process is kind of very much evolved in terms of the relationship of the camera right yeah. "I was always inspired reading with John Toll and Malick even back on the film Red Line where they just felt like as soon as they got on a longer lens on those Panavision C-series lenses they just feltlike they were losing something," he says."We wanted to kind of get in there and