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Helping Joe, Episode 31

The Mating Grounds Podcast

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The Other Path Is Not Evil, Right?

"I totally get it. It is in a weird way like having a superpower, right? But on the other hand, there's a reason I had to spend four years in psychoan else," he says. "The further you go down that path, the harder you make it on yourself ... The two goals are not totally opposite, but they're kind of orthogonal and they trade off."

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