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"Can You Be An Ethical CEO?" - OaD Ep. 170

Owls at Dawn

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I Don't Get Obsessive With People

"I just think of celebrity culture as being this really highly fabricated kind of like bullshit thing that's forced down the public's throats," he says. "If I was 13 and I met MXPX, I would have been a little bit starstruck." The singer-songwriter doesn't get obsessed with people or bands too much. He tries to avoid other people in general but is not shy about meeting strangers.

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