The American System Is Stable, Is It Really Stable?

Sally Kohn: I think one thing that does come true is the kind of populism versus or the kind of anti populism versus anti elitism. We'll talk about that more when I get to that episode. But anyways, let's talk about the earlier episodes first. She says she and Robin Hansen disagree on whether this fragmentation will lead to just like a continual sort of decadence in either the libertarian sense or the cultural decadence in the more social conservative view.