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Michael Leon: How skateboarding prepared him for Nike, Patagonia, and Sonos
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Patagonia - What's the Difference Between Sustainable and Sustainable?
Michael was creative director of Patagonia's sport categories. He says there is a tension between wanting to be very sustainable and also selling more products just to stay alive. "In order to influence other businesses, Patagonia needs to be a successful business," he says.
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